Thursday, May 26, 2011

First vision, or eating dessert first

The manager  would have one believe that "the first vision special" is the only thing on the menu.  One version was canonized, and props for having it actually accepted by common consent.  But let's take a look at other offerings on the menu:

1832- the earliest version

One of the fascinating bits of this version is that Joseph says "I found that mankind came not unto the Lord  but that they had apostatized from the true and living faith and that there was no society or denomination that built upon the gospel of Jesus Christ".  

God doesn't tell him that no church is true, he figures it out for himself beginning his scripture study at 12 years old.

Joseph himself says that he is 15 years of old when he cried in the wilderness.   He mentions only seeing the Lord, and that the Lord says "Joseph, My son, thy sins are forgiven thee.  Go thy way, walk in my statutes and keep my commandments behold I am the Lord of glory I was crucified for the world that all those who believe in me may have eternal life.  Behold, the world lieth in sin, and no one doeth good, no not one" all the way to the coming with clouds.  

(no two personages in this picture)

The date of Moroni's appearance is given as 22 Sept 1822.   Moroni appears 3 times that night, and once the next day, but no scritpure citation is given.


Olver Cowdery Version, published

In this he mentions that Joseph was 15 at the time, and his mother and brothers joined the presbyterian church.  Later, a correction was printed, stating that it was not 1820, but rather 1824 when Joseph's family joined the church; we're only discussing the Moroni/Nephi visit (see previous post about that).  This timeline is supported by the presbyterian and methodist records of the day.
1823. (Messenger and Advocate, Vol. 1, No. 5, February 1835, page 78)

He relates how on the evening of the 21st of September 1823 a personage sent by the commandment of the Lord visited Joseph Smith in his bedroom.  Namely, we're  

This version is corroborated with Lucy Mack Smith's history, in which a "First vision" is not mentioned, but the angel Nephi/Moroni's visit is very key

(the boyhood home in which Moroni appeared, and they didn't live in when he had the first vision but is near the hill cumorah that he went to from this home.  Right.)

Ok, but so what; Maybe they just didn't mention the first vision
That's a fair item on the menu, and if you'd like to order it, the manager would appreciate it.  However; as your waiter, I should advise you that the cook for this dish didn't really prepare it properly.

You see, Joseph didn't live on a farm in Manchester until 1822 (Salt Lake City, Smith Research Associates, distributed by Signature Books, 1994, pages 1-13).  Two years after the vision happened there.  

Also, Lucy Smith wasn't born yet in 1820.  (She was born in 1821; but is listed in the family as being alive at the time in the Manager's special)

So there are some ingredients left out of this dish, and a few added that make it less appealing; never the less, it still has some credit.

Let's move on to the next menu option:

Joseph Smith Diary, Nov. 9, 1835  (Age 14)

Here we have a synopsis of the previous versions.  The "lite" version if you will.  James 1:5 is mentioned for the first time, as well as the confusion by various religions.  

For the first time the "Darkness" is mentioned as "The sound of someone walking" and he "Jumps up"... very different from the special in that he is bound down so that he couldn't even move in that version.  Perhaps just a timing issue.
(This is a picture of Joseph jumping)

Here we have two people appearing, but not at the same time.  They come down in succession.  One says that his sins are forgiven, and testifies that Jesus is the Son of God.

wait... he doesn't say "I am Jesus Christ"?  Well, maybe he was tailoring the message for the Jewish minister.  He also adds that he saw many angels in the vision.  Something left out of the Manager's special.  I wonder why we don't believe there were other angels anymore.

Ah well, we proceed.  He then recounts the moroni/nephi visit during which the angel says: "... The indians were the literal dependents of Abraham".

WOAH, we'll get to DNA evidence later; but suffice it to say; to remove the word "principle" to "Among" in the intro of the book of Mormon which was done seems to require doubting Josephs own journal.  Nope, not for consumption, so says the manager; and I can see why; that is one spicy dish right there.

Erastus Snow's version (second hand, age 14)
http://www.irr.org/mit/first-vision/dn-1852.html

I try to avoid second hand accounts, but this one was published in the Deseret News, and thus may be consumed by some patrons.  It is also told from the first person perspective.

“This afternoon, Erastus Holmes, of Newbury, Ohio, called on me to inquire about the establishment of the church, and to be instructed in doctrine more perfectly. I gave him a brief relation of my experience while in my juvenile years, say from six years old up to the time I received the first visitation of angels, which was when I was about fourteen years old; also the revelations that I received afterwards concerning the Book of Mormon, and a short account of the rise and progress of the church up to this date.”


Hugh Nibley and others dismiss this as stating that "Angels includes any heavenly messenger such including God" but still the church thought it unclear enough to try to hide it  in the History of the church.  Ah well, Managers have to cover up their mistakes.


The Manager's Special (14-15 years old)
Included in the Pearl of Great Price.  


1844 a version published after the Manger's special (14 years old):
Joseph Smith, Latter Day Saints, p.404-405

Very much a summary.  Most the details left out.  Very "lite" compared to the special.  Again he mentions: "I was informed also concerning the aboriginal inhabitants of this country, and shown who they were, and from whence they came; a brief sketch of their origin, progress, civilization, laws, governments, of their righteousness and iniquity, and the blessings of God being finally withdrawn from them as a people, was made known unto me.”"


To say that DNA evidence does not contradict the Book of Mormon is to discount Joseph's own words on the first vision twice; ah well, let us ignore that and focus on that this version seems the least inflammatory except for the spice at the end.  One could picture the manager favoring this one as its lack of details makes it far more defensible.

Well, there are your menu options, and every one penned by Joseph Smith himself.  No anecdotal evidence; no second hand accounts; 100% Joseph; but remember, picking and choosing isn't allowed.  That would be "less faithful"

Wednesday, May 25, 2011

Today's Menu, a little breakfast: Morooni or Nephi

When reading Hugh Nibley's "Tinkling Cymbals and Sounding Brass", I saw him refute the "Joseph confused Nephi and Moroni" theory as simply being from some letter of brothers in which they mention a "Spaniard with his throat cut" and then he shows that it doesn't even agree with the story that their father tells.

"'he saw a man standing over the spot who, to him, appeared like a Spaniard, having a long beard down over his breast".  Their father, being the man "Nathaniel C. Lewis, who in 1834 swore an affidavit that he knew Joseph Smith to be "an imposter . . . and [a] liar,"

That's all well and good; and agrees well with the "manager's special" meal offered by the cafeteria, clearly Joseph never said Nephi visited him, nor is there any confusion in the matter if you pick the "Manager Special".  However, the truth, is less simple to digest.  Again, this isn't a case of "There is no picking and choosing required, and those non-members just made it all up to attack Joseph".

Let's see what else is on the menu:

The Times and Seasons Vol. III pp. 749, 753
"When I first looked upon him I was afraid, but the fear soon left me. He called me by name, and said unto me that he was a messenger sent from the presence of God to me, and that his name was Nephi. That God has a work for me to do, ... He said there was a book deposited written upon gold plates, giving an account of the former inhabitants of this continent, and the source from whence they sprang."

This was a paper edited by Joesph Smith.  Of course it could be a misprint, but this is being printed on March 15,1842.  One might expect at least a "Whoops the paper made an error" in the next edition.

Millennial Star, vol. 3, p.53 (August, 1842)
(Click here for larger image)
August, 1842, the Millennial Star, printed in England , also published Joseph Smith's story stating that the angel's name was "Nephi" 


Ok, so the millenial star often reprinted what was stated in the times and seasons, just in the UK.  The misprint could have been a re-publish of the previous error.  But that could have left a lot of members in confusion.  Now we might excuse some of the non-members for also not keeping the story straight



Lucy Mack Smith

In 1853, Joseph's mother, Lucy Mack Smith, also said the angel's name was Nephi 

Hmm... maybe her memory was affected by the newspapers.

Pearl of Great Price, 1851 edition

"He called me by name and said unto me, that he was a messenger sent from the presence of God to me, and that his name was Nephi." (Pearl of Great Price, 1851 edition, page 41)

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So the original menu had "Nephi" being served from 1830-1853 and then sometime Orson Pratt changed it to have "Moroni" in its place (see Textual Changes in the Pearl of Great Price, typed copy, p.125).


This isn't to say that it was either Nephi or Moroni who appeared; but to say that the idea that there was ever only one menu, and that member should never, ever pick and choose their doctrine is absolutely ridiculous.  The doctrine shifts; and one can't help but pick and choose.  

Simply because it isn't the manager's special doesn't mean it isn't wrong

About:

Russell M Nelson gave a talk during the 2011 spring conference about that Members of the church cannot be cafeteria Mormons, choosing which doctrines they believe.  This is a fascinating statement for it is clear that the job of Correlation is to do just that, select only certain doctrines and statements for public consumption.

Elder Nelson even selected his own diet of doctrines when addressing conference on the translation of plates in a conference talk <Citation needed> compared to when he spoke to CES (seminary) teachers.  In one, he implies by not stating all the details that the Book of Mormon was translated by the Urim in thumim.  In the other; he clearly states that translation occurred via a seer stone dug from a well.

This blog is to help Members, ex-members and people of other faith to realize that, in fact; everyone does their own choosing of which doctrines to follow, and which to refuse; and that if a strictly literal view is to be taken of any doctrine, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is in real trouble; as well as many faiths.  It is this “Cafeteria selection” that defines religions